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Min-Che-Kan Soviet $1
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Moneta



Registered: August 2005
Location: Arizona USA
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This is the other "authenticity in doubt" issue seen in KM under this Soviet. The other is the 'Lenin' dollar with Yuan reverse. Please see that listing in this Museum for further details. I am in the camp that believes these are authentic and struck for presentation. Money Company auction, Jan 1979, lot #226. Their listing states: 1931 Hunan Province Communist Dollar. Y-502 (old KM). Described by some as a controversial issue, it is still believed by many experts to be a proper issue of the Hunan Communist Government and quite rare. Legend translates: Soviet Government of Hunan Province."


Here are a number of RARE articles on Communist Chinese Soviet coins & notes from the Moneta Library:
VIEW & DOWNLOAD:
Chinese Soviet Coins and Notes - Raeburn (1st research 1937!): [ link ]
Chinese Soviet Coins Intriguing - Hogan: [ link ]
Chinese Communist Armies - Kann (excerpt): [ link ]
Soviet Chinese Copper Coins - Hua Guangpu (Little Brown Book): [ link ]


The premier articles on Early Chinese Soviet issues are the invaluable documents below. It covers the history, coins and notes from 1927-1935 and includes photos and a map: (with color photos; in 3 parts);
Money of Communist China - Sandrock Part I: [ link ]
Money of Communist China - Sandrock Part II: [ link ]
Money of Communist China - Sandrock Part III: [ link ]
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Keywords: Min-Che-Kan Soviet Communist Chinese Hunan
Denomination: Dollar (Yuan)
Reference #: Y 502
Date/Mintmark: 1931
Condition: XF
Weight: 26.1 gm; 38.5 mm
Metal: Ag

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Zantetsuken

Registered: January 2010
Location: United States
Posts: 313
May 23, 2010 1:28am

Interesting. Even if this turns out to be fake or spurious, it's still a nice curiosity piece. Thanks for sharing.
Moneta

Registered: August 2005
Location: Arizona USA
Posts: 1,916
May 23, 2010 12:55pm

Even though the two pieces in question have more recently (~20 years ago) come under scrutany the 'fabric' matches some of the acknowledged authentic pieces from '31 - '34. They are of good silver and the weights are good. Assuming they are not contemporary with the Soviets then they were struck soon after the formation of the PRC. This example was dirty and has seen some wear. The side portrait of the 'Lenin' dollar (the only one that can be obtained) appears in the very first monograph by Raeburn that was presented in 1937! (linked above). It's very possible that the Lenin's that do rarely come to market are restrikes of the originals. When taken as 'inauthentic' these pieces are considered part of the fine tradition of "Fantasies" that are rife in the modern (including cast coins) Chinese field. As such they are very 'collectable' and receive high bids at auction.


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